Can not load up my system completely

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23 Feb, 2012 Vadim
23 Feb, 2012 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
On the laptop is Core i7 2670m. When rendering of light and the actual rendering percent downloaded an average of 70 - 80%. Before hundreds of load does not want to. On the laptop loaded the previous one at 100. A couple of times managed to somehow load by 100%. I suspect that some sort of influence on this setting. So get lost, and 20% more time on the actual rendering ... Memory is sufficient with a good supply of ... Tell me how to get 100% efficiency from proca or many is there?


3 Mar, 2012 Anton (Staff Author)
3 Mar, 2012 # Re: Can not load up my system completely

Hello!

Strangely enough, but most of the misunderstandings of such a plan, only misunderstandings.
Their reason is trivial. To determine the degree of CPU or RAM usage, users use all sorts of gauges, third-party programs, etc., which simply do not objectively monitor system resources. Even if the percentage is loaded by 100% and the RAM is completely clogged, such programs can erroneously report not fully loading resources.

If we talk about the real underload of the processor, then the main reason for this phenomenon is also very trivial. V-Ray simply does not have enough RAM to render and it uses swap. In turn, during the loading / unloading of data, not in fast RAM, but on a slow hard drive, the processor is idle. For sure, if you look at the indicator of the hard drive, then in the situation described by you, it most likely flashes without ceasing. This eloquently testifies to the problem of shortage of operative memory.

Given that you have a laptop, then, even the performance models based on the Intel Core i7-2670QM (2.2 GHz) processor, rarely have more than 4 - 6 GB of RAM. That, in general, not so much. But, if you still have an expensive copy with 8 GB of RAM, it is also hardly possible to call it a "good stock" in the "heavy" scene.

In addition, you should definitely make sure that you are using 64 bit version of 3ds Max. Otherwise, no matter how much RAM is installed in your laptop, more than 3.2 GB per process (in your case, rendering) will not be used.

A more serious problem is possible. The matter is that some manufacturers of laptops install special energy-saving software, the purpose of which is to reduce the power consumption. Of course, by reducing the load of the GPU and CPU. It can also be the cause of CPU underload on resource-intensive tasks.
You should make sure that you do not have such "branded" utilities on your laptop.
In a more radical case, such an energy-saving algorithm can be "sewn up" at the BIOS level of the laptop's motherboard. In this case, you can turn it off in the BIOS settings, or you can not.

Apparently, Intel® Core ™ i7-2670QM - uses Hyper-Threading, that is, it breaks each physical core into two logical ones. It is possible that this is also a formal cause of underloading. Go into the BIOS and cut down the HT. Perhaps this will solve the problem😉

In any case, one way or another, you should understand that the laptop is far from the best solution for professional rendering. Therefore, if this is really a real problem, and not a banal resource monitoring error, it is quite possible that you will not be able to solve it.

But you are always mobile😁



23 Feb, 2012 Vadim
3 Mar, 2012 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
Hello! I installed 8 GB operatyvy. Swap accordingly not included. In my scene 3ds max consumes only 1.5GB of memory. Max 64bit. Sometimes it was possible to load 100%, on this and the following question arises. Maybe there are some options for what? The idea is contrary HT should speed up the process ...


23 Feb, 2012 Vadim
5 Mar, 2012 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
Sorry, you must have considered before reaching a message as a rebuke according to the editorial. )


3 Mar, 2012 Anton (Staff Author)
5 Mar, 2012 # Re: Can not load up my system completely

Hello!

No, we have not found him literally reproach. Just your message looked very rough and containing "unproven conjecture in the affirmative and exclamatory form."

You have not commented on it, on what basis are you sure 100% fidelity resource monitoring. I not tried to disable the HT, and check for other possible causes of underutilization described in the answer to a given question thee.

In addition, so far it is not clear at what stage you are rendering underutilization. In step load geometry GI calculation step or already during the final rendering. The first two stages can be easily underload percent to 100% due to the specifics of their algorithms. And in the end, he did not provide any information about the stage itself and its settings. In particular, on the type of reykastera and available in the proxy scene van, and other important details.

However, your initial question is quite pertinent in this section the discussion. We like it and just so your koment was correct, and not removed for violating the above requirement.

If you really want to understand the problem that is described thee in the beginning, then you should try all the options that I'm advised. Then report the results to us, or anyone who has encountered and found the answer to this question could help you😉



23 Feb, 2012 Vadim
8 Mar, 2012 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
HT on the laptop will not turn off, have to live with it. On most forums told HT that accelerates the VRay actual rendering, so I think it's not him, although suspicions remained. Underload is at all stages. Settings are almost entirely yours. Minor changes have affected the quality of GI. But completely with your result is the same. Resource Monitor how to use the standard a task manager and third parties. The fact that I've tried all the options except the hardware impossible (HT). So it is anyone's guess. Once again it was possible to load a couple of times on the 100, but unfortunately I do not remember how I did it because I did not know that then goes solid underload ....


14 Mar, 2012 Dimon
14 Mar, 2012 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
Vadim was able to figure out why something is not partial load is simply too drew attention to it I also will ship exactly 50% win7 / 64 / 8GB / max 2012


14 Mar, 2012 Dimon
15 Mar, 2012 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
and another question is how to make use of most of the RAM instead of 45% for some reason, not all memory is used


24 Mar, 2012 Igor
24 Mar, 2012 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
hi =) question is bought 2w card zotac gforce gtx 560 (DDR5) to 2giga and that 4giga videopamyati.6gigov ddr3 RAM and intel i percent in July 2600 k ... shorter 2nd pokoleniya.Podklyuchil sli graphics card through everything as such is used nado.Problema 1 graphics card, the system writes what is available and used 4giga 2, how to fight it (I have windows 7 64bit OS):? |


24 Mar, 2012 Igor
24 Mar, 2012 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
By the way video is completely identical


3 Mar, 2012 Anton (Staff Author)
24 Mar, 2012 # Re: Can not load up my system completely

Hello!

Honestly, it's not clear where the system writes what 4 is available, and how you determine what is used 2. In any case, you should get to know what SLI is. Then, you will find out that video memory does not stack. This is in principle not logical, since SLI is just a division of the image into portions and rendering these portions in different video cards, just as the distribution rendering does. For example, the frame is divided (conditionally) in half, into two half-frames. Then, one half-frame is sent to render one video card, and the other half-frame, another video card. After that, both video cards calculate their part of the frame and, an additional video card, transmits the calculated half-frame to the main video card. The one to which the monitor is connected. Having received a half-frame from an additional video card, the main folds it with its half-frame and forms a full frame, immediately sending it to the monitor. But not as a single whole frame, it is calculated at once by two GPUs: By the way, as far as I know (I can and make mistakes), it is because of this need to return parts of the frame for assembling it into a single frame, the SLI system is not scaled proportionally. That is, installing two video cards in a system that support SLI (dividing one frame into parts) of the application does not work twice as fast. As a rule, they work only on 20% -30% more productive than a single video card. Only in very rare cases, the increase is up to 50%. For example, in video cards with two GPUs on the board, which do not need to exchange data via the system bus or SLI bridge.



23 Feb, 2012 Vadim
24 Mar, 2012 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
Dimon, a uploaded each core separately? Seems to me that you have half the flow than the actual rendering streams in proce ... I Noticed also that 7zip at certain points on the 100, some 80.


1 Apr, 2013 Mari
1 Apr, 2013 # Re: Can not load up my system completely

Good afternoon! The story is long, I ask you to finish reading, I tried to describe in detail)

The computer at me:

I7 CPU 920 @ 2.67 GhHz 2.66GHz
Memory (RAM) 6GB (4GB available)
The video card now costs Nvidia GF GTX 560 1GB / 26b N560GTX M2D1GD5 VX

64-bit Windows 7 is the maximum


3d max 2013 installed

The computer is powerful enough and works slowly, after rendering is especially difficult.
At the beginning of the working day it still works fine, but in the late afternoon it's really a brake ...
It started all month ago, my own video card burned down. Let's go buy a new one. We took Radeon, the numbers do not remember 1GB anymore, but it did not fit, after a few days of use it started to cut down, a black screen and intermittent hiccups, well, it's not so important, because Cam factory marriage. Exchanged for Nvidia GF GTX 560, and like everything is ok, it works well. Comp of course, everything also gets tired by the evening and after 10 minutes the render seems to come to life🙂 It's especially hard for him when you switch from one program to another. For example, my work is always included in parallel 3d max and Corel x5, and so in the transition from one program to another (one at this time collapsed) the computer brakes heavily. (Although it happens that in the morning only 2 programs work without rendering, Queues open both completely calmly), but after work in the browser (google chrome) in general trouble, unfold the program and wait until it hangs up: buzzing loudly, first around the perimeter of the badges will appear, then the middle opens with difficulty.
Well, that's my main problem: three days ago a black screen appears during the render, the computer did not turn off. On the monitor (I have Samsung SyncMaster B2230) only the lower and only blue light is blinking. I really thought that again the video card, but after the reboot everything gets better and I continue to work. The next day is about the same, the black screen lights up, only on the monitor runs the sign "check the signal. cable". I change the cable to the same from the old computer. Again I turn on the computer, and again everything works. The situation is repeated 3 times (the cable returned home). I thought that there could be a problem in the monitor.
I went and bought a HD cable. I'm working. At the end of the working day - black screen. The signs "check the signal. Cable "is not. Comp almost silent, but turned on. Suddenly it starts to sound very strange and loud. I look (the benefit of the lid is open) on the CPU fan rotates with a crazy force. I turn off the computer from the button.
Enable - everything works. I conclude that the problem is still with the video card.
Logically I can assume that this is an incompatibility of a video card with something else, maybe with a motherboard.
Please advise what I do, contact the warranty service with a video card or change something from iron?
Advise how to be. The computer is powerful, and it does not work at full strength why that. At that time, in general, pentium 4 stood and quietly experienced parallel work in several programs. Of course, then the max was 8 and 13, and the renderers are not solid, but still ...
This brother bought a computer 2 years ago, he worked gorgeously always, fled. And I ...
When the computer slows the CPU load, it reaches 10%, but mostly 1-3%. RAM (RAM) is over-scale above 54%. Once it came out yes 98 (but it's in my opinion with that not suitable video card)
In general, as she could have described, you give all such practical advice, there is only one hope for you. 😉 Who just did not ask only hands are bred 🙄



2 Apr, 2013 gus_ann
2 Apr, 2013 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
I was not so, but a similar situation. Comp was old, which is not to say renders been slow to fur effects did not have enough memory, etc. Then flew graphics card, Nvidia's changed to a new, four-she is too bad, too, was working Rejection, changed, when hopping from program to program issues were not, but then flew the computer itself, it is no longer included with the button. After 20 times pressing the switch on (longer turn it off completely). And then he did fly. The problem solved by replacing all hardware and software on the new, modern, all under the net. This, of course, very expensive, had to borrow, shaking her husband, and then work hard day and night to pay off debts ...


3 Mar, 2012 Anton (Staff Author)
2 Apr, 2013 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
Hello! Affected literally system performance, the problem is more than obvious. For advanced graphics software tasks and the overall level of Win7 operating system, 6GB RAM - extremely little. Here no options, you need a minimum of 8, 16 or more is better. Otherwise, instead of a smooth operation and swapping curling as a consequence of the entire system. I is 32 - swapping problems there at all. In addition, the alarming fact that the set 6 and is available in all 4e. Win7 certainly "eats" 2 to fit your needs, but just about this report and it is not formally established that is available all physically in the system. So you should make sure that you have is just a 64 bit version of Windows, not 32-bit. With regard to problems with the video card you have and how it turns out and gus_ann, it is very difficult to pull on the "chance". It is possible that there is a problem, for example, with a power supply cord that or ext. Power, which is connected directly to the video card, or the motherboard, just "burn" card. In theory, this is possible, but in practice, I personally met with, to burn two graphics cards in a row in a single system. I had a case when burned video card with passive cooling system from overheating. So it stands to gus_ann and consider replacing key parts. At least the power and motherboard unit accurately.


1 Apr, 2013 Mari
2 Apr, 2013 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
Thanks for answers. I looked in the properties, System and Security: System type - 64 bit operating system. Yes, definitely I add RAM. But at the expense of video is not clear. Does it make sense to try to change the power supply? All the same, it's not expensive) The motherboard I would not want to. Especially when the first video card is burned and tried to understand why the computer does not turn people came well versed in the gland, and so he then said: "Yes, you have a solid motherboard."


3 Mar, 2012 Anton (Staff Author)
2 Apr, 2013 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
Oshibochno do the same thing and expect a different result. So you can endlessly change the video card, assuring himself that someone smart praised motherboard but has not been able to identify the problem, you can try to replace as much as possible components that can theoretically be involved in the issue, if almost the exact cause is not found. With regard to the previously described thee the message "Check signal cable" on the monitor, then I just behaves modern professional monitor in multi-monitor system, turn it off when a button on the front panel, to your computer to sleep, and then wake up and turn on the computer. And the reason for this connection on the DisplayPort interface. I have three monitors, and there is no choice, I have to connect it on the monitor, as the cards, at least the game, only two DVI. Judging by the performance of your monitor, it is only connected by VGA, then the problem is not the cable. Then simply setting the power rebuke off the monitor when it is idle. That he did not "fall asleep" maybe he's just not true it wakes 🙄


1 Apr, 2013 Mari
2 Apr, 2013 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
After replacing cables to DVI such a problem no more. Add the RAM 16, and then the power supply system, if not the help you'll need to change the motherboard (Today, the whole day worked and the PC is not vyrubalsya.Prosto when she saw that he began to strain 3 d max vyklyuchila.Minut 15 vklyuchila.I it became easier🙂 although 3 d max x64 too. Thank you very much! Everything was explained to me 👍


1 Apr, 2013 Mari
10 Apr, 2013 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
Hello! It's me again) Changed PSU (Epsilon 800 plus 80), I tried to do the render, but the computer provides a large CPU load, arrow reached 100% .Zagruzka RAM up to 98%. It does not become his torment (Although in general the computer works fine. What could be the reason? Maybe incorrectly connected card? Previously, if the download RAM visited off scale the CPU utilization is above 30 precisely did not rise.


3 Mar, 2012 Anton (Staff Author)
10 Apr, 2013 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
What reason? The reason why? What processor is loaded to 100% when rendering? 😁 In this topic raised question why is not 100%, and you're worried that the 100%? Well this is good. What is the actual problem? Render and should be 100% load all cores. The alarm should be beaten if at least one core underused in full and with the card now?


1 Apr, 2013 Mari
10 Apr, 2013 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
I did not think that it was good. I think that it is heavy😁 got used less than half zagruzheno.Luchshe ask 🙄


17 Apr, 2013 Leguard
17 Apr, 2013 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
Good afternoon! I want to share the problem. In general put the render settings for your lessons, the scene is not very heavy, but the render time goes disastrously huge memory eat almost all (97-99%), and the CPU load by 2-3%! After 3-4 hours to download the same scene with the same settings, render 10 minutes, but now processor running at 95-100%, and the memory consumes approximately 85-90%. Why is that, do iron slowly covered? Intel Core i7-2600 3.40Ghz, 12gb RAM, NVIDIA Gforce GTX 560 Ti, Win7 x64 Thank you in advance)


20 Apr, 2013 Vlad
20 Apr, 2013 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
most likely the processor is idle just because of the lack of RAM and as a consequence of the use of swaps. Look through the manager at that time devours operatives.


9 Dec, 2013 antuan117
9 Dec, 2013 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
Calculation of LC and IM does not load the CPU completely - is this normal? Machine - i7 3770, 16GB. When rendering is used 5-6 gigs, others are free. And almost the entire rendering LC and IM percent loaded on 50-70%. When the final rendering begins - there is all 99-100. This is normal or somewhere something needs to be corrected in the conservatory? Settings - roughly your lessons. Vray 2.20, 3ds max 2012.


29 May, 2014 sia1979
29 May, 2014 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
This standard materials buggy. Do virey skin converter, and everything will be 👌


17 Nov, 2014 Daniil
17 Nov, 2014 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
Hello! I have a netbook LT4004u 1gb ddr3 memory processor intel atom n2600 intel gma 3600 video graphics CPU utilization of 15% and the RAM 72 even when off all program bugs bugs and glitches. It came on a PC😁😁😁 polamat hard drive. bought new! then it is very buggy even kerish doktor 2014 not helps! what to do? RAM at least 50%!


30 Dec, 2014 Andrey
30 Dec, 2014 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
Good afternoon! I'll start from the beginning. House 2 percent core, work -Processor i7 8gb ram video - gtx-750. Win7 x64. I noticed that the house while rendering render the same scene 25 times faster than at work. He began to look for this kind of garbage. At home and at work set max 2015 vray 3.07 of the same assembly. When rendering is not fully loaded percent. I thought the problem with wood, updated - did not help. Next set v ray 2.5 did not help. Established max 2014 Vray-3.03- percent running at 100% - render time compared with the house accelerated in proportion to the difference of number of cores and their frequency. If we compare with the previous miscalculation to render unusable the CPU rendering speed has increased about 50 times. Next, download a new version of Max 15 - reinstalled (because you want to work with the latest version), the error persists. I launched a simple scene with a cube, percent loading of 100%, run heavier percent is not used. I think the problem either: Max assigned a low priority. 2. Where on the memory usage limit. In the Max put operatives to 7GB of 8, but it is not half spent. Which one will be the idea?


1 Aug, 2015 Kris
1 Aug, 2015 # Re: Can not load up my system completely
Hello everybody! I have a problem. Why do I run two bucket, but before that it was eight. This is me somewhere did something and a bug (max 2014 v-ray 3). Jackdaw on MULTI-THREADING worth.


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