Hello! I would like to know your opinion, to date, 2015, for a best equipment for 3d max, specifically for interior and exterior! Shoveled forums clambered sites - I can not decide. and It makes sense to buy the most expensive, or you can save a little bit, but basically get the same performance? 🙂 And what equipment you use, if not secret? 🙂
Hello everybody!Here comes the hour of updating the long-awaited section of the best computer for 3d rendering.The basis of the computing power of the computer is a central processor, so its choice can be carried out according to the principle described below, not only for assembling the render node, but also for the working computer.The situation in the computer hardware since the last of our resume The best PC for 3d, 2013 has changed somewhat. Despite the fact that the basic principles of selection have remained, some tendencies of progress are outlined. Who has not read, or in order to refresh the views and prices of a year and a half ago, go for a brief introduction and conclusions on the above link.I talked about new trends; Probably, they are not the same as new ones, but they have become noticeable only now.Render-node news
Increase the energy efficiency of all parts of the PC, and all electronics. This applies to the processor, video card and memory with a monitor (even a refrigerator in the kitchen). The computer performance is sufficient for a lot of calculations and the engineers try to optimize all the processes and, while maintaining the productivity, get: A - fewer problems with heat dissipation, because components with the same processing power do not heat up much, B - decrease Spending on (electro) energy and non-pollution of the environment, B - smaller size and cost of materials, again due to less heat generation. We, too, will not forget about this trend and will consider it promising. I, for example, will be a little upset if in 2 years it turns out that the city electric car consumes less than my deadly smoky render-node😁 Joke of course, but there is something here.Decrease in prices for SSD. Now, the price for a 60-120 gigabyte solid-state drive is comparable, or even less than the cheapest hard drive (HDD), which is the SSD pass to the render-node club: there is not much more for the system and the scene.Equalize the price / quality ratio of top processors. This news is not the most pleasant for those who doubt the choice and pleasant for those who are afraid of making mistakes. Now many processors are identical and the difference in them is negligible. But nothing, we will understand and those 5% of differences.All - ballastWe, as electronics developers, also allow ourselves to succumb to optimization strategies. Once we calculate the cost of all the details, and we will compare only by adding a central processor. To please this simplicity, the feature is that:1 - the rendering speed depends only on the processor2 - the price of the remaining parts is almost the same regardless of the type of processor.Nevertheless, after the selection of the processor, all these details must be bought: we can safely follow the following principles.The motherboard is just a suitable CPU socket, but just in case, make sure that it exactly supports the CPU you selected. Now almost everyone has an integrated video card, so there is a place to connect the monitor.The cooler is included with the processor, do not waste it.RAM - 8 gigabytes is still relevant for commercial 3D rendering, we take two slats of 4 GB of any compatible memory. It is desirable to choose the maximum memory frequency (in MHz) supported by the processor and the motherboard.The drive - as I said above, now there are available SSDs, you need to take any volume of 60-64 gigabytes. This will be enough for the system, and the render software, and for rendering, and a little more remains.The case is either with a 350-400 watt power supply.For a desktop (non-server) system, this entire ballast will cost to date an average of 190 USD for both an Intel-based computer and an AMD-based computer. All other improvements and bloat - the case of the master (= your personal) and to the rationality of the choice do not have an attitude.The choice of processor in terms of price / performance ratioAll these data are enough for us to start choosing a processor that will suit both the render-baket and the budget for the computer.Using a super-duper renderer technology, consisting of a very reliable site-processor aggregator of processors www.cpubenchmark.net, a common price for processors, a cost of $ 190 ballast and a complex calculation, we get the next top profitable acquisitions.The whole PC, in collection, based on:AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core - gives out 2523 units of production for every $ 100 spentAMD FX-8320 Eight-Core - 2519 for the same $ 100AMD FX-9590 Eight-Core - 2389 (fewer letters, more digits)AMD FX-8320E Eight-Core - 2365AMD FX-8370 Eight-Core - 2363AMD FX-9370 Eight-Core - 2355AMD FX-8370E Eight-Core - 2345AMD FX-6300 Six-Core - 2319AMD FX-6350 Six-Core - 2269Intel Core i7-5820K @ 3.30GHz-2091AMD FX-4350 Quad-Core - 2047Intel Core i7-4790K @ 4.00GHz - 2021As you can see, a number of processors have a very similar budget efficiency, so choosing any of the above, you will not miss.I want to highlight some of the most distinguished processors.AMD FX-8350It's still the same money-saver from the previous comparison!Having a high absolute performance of 9,000 units of performance and costing $ 356 per PC, this processor is awarded the title of an instant economy. Each kopeeichka spent on this processor, will try to show you the computing power. Unfortunately, not the best choice for a potential workstation due to the low performance of a single kernel of the given kernel.AMD FX-9370Not showing the best result by the current criterion, this processor manages to consume 220 watts of energy, and hence allocate the same 220 watts of heat. Do you live and render in a cold climate? Choose FX-9370, he will have mercy on a purse and will warm on a cold night. If the climate is different, then the computer-heater is a bad choice. 220 watts you will definitely feel.Intel Core i7-4790KDespite the fact that this processor is already at the end of our price / performance price tag, it deserves attention. Very high absolute productivity in 11237 units. Four cores, which means high performance of each of them, plus a turbo mode, which means even more performance. Very little heat dissipation in 88 watts. Cool! Very low power consumption of 88 watts. Cool! It seems that this one is characterized by high energy efficiency. Is it important?Energy Efficiency of ComputingIn this issue we will take into account such a parameter as energy efficiency, or easier, how much will the electricity spent by the computer.The fact is that with frequent rendering, the costs of electricity become very noticeable and do not take into account their very short-sighted behavior. Strange as it may seem, even a personal render-farm exhibits considerable scores with kilowatt-hours. And since we, professional trideshniki, only do what we render, then besides the instantly laid out amount on the computer itself, we must take into account its gluttony.Selection of the processor for medium-term profitability of renderersAdd to the calculations the conditional total performance of the personal render farm (as three PCs on the FX-8350 / 2.73 PC on the i7-4770 / 3.15 PC on the i7-2600K / 4.41 PC on the FX-6200, etc.), 2-year renderers, And the average cost of electricity is 7.5 cents per kWh.Using a personal render of the farm of the described capacity, the amount of computers, plus the energy spent, will depend on which processors the render-farm is built on.AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core - $ 1700Intel Core i7-4790K @ 4.00GHz - $ 1722AMD FX-8370E Eight-Core - $ 1739AMD FX-8320E Eight-Core - $ 1760AMD FX-8370 Eight-Core - $ 1761Intel Core i7-5820K @ 3.30GHz - $ 1767AMD FX-8320 Eight-Core - $ 1778Intel Core i7-4790 @ 3.60GHz - $ 1,823Intel Core i7-4770 @ 3.40GHz - $ 1847Apparently, taking into account the cost of electricity, on which our render-horses work, the amount of money spent on the render can significantly differ. And this is on the top processors by this criterion. For example, our warm friend on FX-9370 will cost $ 2,076 if a farm is made on it. Or $ 2452 on all known i7-2600K (if, of course, it is found on sale new).Energy efficiency is an important parameter. Do not take it into account - you will lose money. Or performance. Or money with performance, and it will be hot next door. In general, it is important.We consider this rating to be final, so I propose to go to the awards.Intel Core i7-5820K - profitable powerNot so noticeable in the list above, but noticeable, if you look at it in detail. The bronze winner in absolute performance among conventional desktop processors is 12962 units. Consuming a considerable 140 watts, its performance still makes this processor the leaders of an advantageous medium-term use of the render-farm. And you can disperse it ...AMD FX-8350 - rationality in 3Again he! In the medium term, the computer on this well is profitable and once again profitable. Who is the most profitable of all AMD? Efiks 8350. Which computer will immediately show the performance? FX-8350. Who holds the position for the second year? Yes Yes.Intel Core i7-4790K - cool, small and promisingThe farm on such processors is only 1% below the profitability of the previous candidate = not inferior. Absolute performance of such a processor is 25% higher. The heat dissipation of the PC on it is 23% lower, the CPU itself is 88W compared to 125W, this is valuable. The power of one core is 2.75 times higher, and it's worth a lot. The ability to put such a processor on a super-small 17x17cm Mini-ITX motherboard is priceless! Ugdayte, who chooses the editors? 🙂According to our version, Intel Core i7-4790K is the best processor for today to build a renderer on it and even better for a workstation due to its single-core performance and very good already built-in graphics for 3ds Max. In any situation for trideshnika this is a wonderful processor to date.Just for interest: in 3 years of renders, the three of the profitability are occupied only by Intel.
Unreasonable coolnessIf you are not limited in the budget to the computer, and for electricity, too, I advise you to look at the Intel Xeon processor series E5 26 **, especially Intel Xeon E5-2699 v3 @ 2.30GHz and the possibility of installing them in several pieces in one PC. 4-7 thousand dollars for June 2015 will allow you to buy a computer just unimaginable performance.ConclusionAs you can see, today there are two cool processors: FX-8350 and i7-4790K, which are unequivocal winners both at once and in the medium term. Which one to choose from these two - it's up to you. And so, and so, you will not lose.All fast renders!Please note, the purpose of this material is to help in choosing a processor for the average 3d specialist, in terms of economic benefits, practical convenience and ease of purchase. Therefore, a number of abbreviations and conventions were used here, including those borrowed from the previous analogous sample. Justified clarifications and amendments, as well as questions on the method of calculation are welcome.
Hi, Max. Long time since you were not, so even with this info. Good stuff, like a slightly modified manner of filing, even on the neigh - keep such a bar 👍.There were some thoughts about the processors. In the new VRay 3 appeared a certain parameter Use Embree, which, according to the developers themselves and users of foreign forums, significantly speeds up the calculation process if the family of Intel processors is used. Even such perceptible figures of a productivity gain of 25-30% are given.If this is the case, then it seems to me that it should be taken into account when choosing a processor and on the basis of this it turns out that the clear favorite can be safely considered i7-4790K. For example, I always used the processors of the AMD family, in the first place as a budget analog, which is almost inferior to the characteristics. I would like to know if this is really true and whether it will be worth it in the future to choose Intel. I'm certainly not special in hardware, but I guess it's because of the architecture of the Intel processors themselves, there's a sandy bridge algorithm that actually doubles the core of the processor, making virtual cores, maybe that's how the Use Embree of the new VRay is based, Did not penetrate and I can be wrong. I would like to know in more detail whether there is anything to oppose AMD in the future and if you had experience using a new Vray with an Intel processor tell a couple of words, so to say, share the feelings😁.I also consider the video core integrated into many models of Intel processors to be very advantageous, it is possible to save very well when assembling a workstation, at least if there is no tangible freedom in the financial plan, and it's impossible to buy a good video card at once, then it seems to me better to make a choice aside A good processor with a built-in video chip, and wait a while to collect the necessary amount for a high-quality graphics card. I had experience working on such a computer with an Intel i5 2600k processor, so I would like to say that some fans of video games can envy such a performance of the chip. And for the render of the node, it seems to me that this is an optimal solution.
Denis, you're very handy noticed. In fact, a new option Vire Use Embree gives unprecedented advantage in rendering time, in practice, giving acceleration from several protsetov ( "for nothing" - this greatly) up to several times (!). For example, renderers without secondary coverage, successfully used for technical animations, accelerated about 2-fold, depending on the contents of the frame.
Intel Embree is a set of special lekovstraivaemyh in existing software application programming interfaces to significantly accelerate ray tracing standard processes. Technology specifically designed for the Intel iron and its fundamental essence, can be used exclusively on relevant current (as i3, i5, i7) Intel processors. Therefore, if you render using vRay 3+, Corona 1.00.02 or any other renderer with support for Embry, the processor choice should definitely lean on the Intel side.
I hope the delidding will give you an advantage in TurboBoost and better overclocking, if you opt for that. I can confirm that out-of-the-box i7-4790K reaches peak temperatures very easily: I couldn't overclock mine even a tiny bit with monstrous Thermalright Macho cooler.
While being the 3 years old CPU, Intel® Core™ i7-4790K still has high-end overall performance, and is in the Top 10 of the most powerful CPUs in single-thread performance by today.