Hello!Yes, all rightly said, the SSD drive is incomparably more productive than the classic mechanical disk with moving plates. In fact, SSD is just a set of memory modules, similar to those that stand in the system as RAM, except that in SSD memory is still slower, but unlike usual it saves information even after turning off the computer, Memory device. More specifically, I compared the SSD with the hard drive. Winchester on average writes and reads information at a speed of 35 megabytes per second, while SSD (Vertex 3 and newer) at a speed of 400 megabytes per second. The difference is, to put it mildly, striking.An even more important parameter is the speed of access to the necessary information. If you take a classic hard drive, then access to the desired bits of information is done by physically moving the moving reading magnetic head over the surface of the rotating disk. Of course, this process takes time. Access time is especially noticeable when the system works with a lot of small files on the disk that are physically scattered around it, and this is almost all the operations of Windows itself, from downloading it to swapping. In the SSD drive, there is practically no such thing as speed of access, in view of the fact that there is no moving head, and the speed of access to the right register of the memory chip is almost instantaneous. That's why they put SSD as a system disk to speed up the whole system.Literally according to your situation, there are many ways out.Probably the most painless, for you, is the one that you yourself chose, namely the transfer of additional software from the SSD to the hard drive. That is, removing 3ds Max, CADs, Photoshop, etc. With the system (C 🙂 SSD and reinstalling them to the archive (D 🙂. For convenience, you can even create a folder d: Program Files ... and install all the design software there, so that you can unload the SSD and leave it only for the needs of the system.As for free space on a 60 gigabyte system disk, then considering that you and cumbersome software and Autoback transferred to an archive hard drive, then free should be not 8 gigabytes. The system on the disk takes no more than 25 gigabytes + gigabytes 5 swap and 30 gig for the needs of the system. So you should have at least 30 gigabytes free for everything else.Pay attention to the fact that Windows has a built-in kickback system, the so-called recovery point. This is when Windows records the current state of the system in case you install something that will disrupt its operation, then you will have the opportunity to return to the previous state and restore the normal functioning of Windows. It is clear that system states (recovery points) are written to the system disk. To free up disk space, you may need to remove the restore points and generally disable the mechanism for creating them.In addition, Windows uses a system of hibernation, so that you can enter the computer into "hibernation." In this case, just like in the case of the recovery point, it records the current state of the system, in particular, data from RAM and information about running applications. Writes the same to the file. For example, I have a file of hibernation "hiberfil.sys" now almost 30 gigabytes. Therefore, you should think about disabling hibernation in your system. Especially if you do not use sleep mode in practice.And lastly swap or virtual memory. If the RAM installed in the system is not enough for its operation, so-called virtual soldering is used, namely, temporary data is written not in RAM, but on the hard disk in the so-called paging file. For example, the current paging file "pagefile.sys" in my system is now more than 30 gigabytes. If you have a similar situation, you should consider moving or resizing this file.For example, I have the opposite situation. Initially, the system stood and is on the hard drive. Relatively recently, there was a need to work with animation (compositing in AE), which was similar to your SSD, not Vertex 4, but Agility 4 SSD 256GB. After that, working with footage (sequencer renders) was just perfect. Around the same time, I moved from 3ds Max 2008 to 3ds Max 2013 and the download time of the latter seemed to me indecently long. So it was decided to reinstall 3ds Max 2013 from the system to the newly installed SSD. Of course, the launch time of 3ds Max has significantly decreased, becoming quite acceptable.
Considering the above, another, more radical, but also the most correct, in terms of performance, suggests, namely, the replacement of a 60 gigabyte SSD by a more capacious one, for example, 256 or 512 gigabytes. At the same time, the system should also have a classic hard disk of a larger size, as an archival hard disk. Then you will be able to keep both the system and key software on a fast SSD by increasing the speed of disk operations both there and there. There are no minuses and no compromises in this case. Is that the price of the SSD itself😁Now in Ukraine, on average, SSD 256GB can be found for 230 USD and below, and SSD 512 GB for 400 USD and cheaper.In my opinion, OCZ Agility 4 SSD 256GB 2.5 for 191 USD will be enough for all the needs of modern trideshnika😉
Denis, hello!In fact, all discussions about the durability of SSDs are rather fear of the unknown and new, rather than having realistic grounds for fear.I have some familiar administrators who serve a whole fleet of computers with hard disks. And even they can not tell what hard drive, what firm is more durable. It happens that the new winchester flies the next day, and it happens that the old people have long passed their warranty and generally stated deadlines for failure, are working in 24/7 mode to this day.The same applies to the case of Tatiana. She just was not lucky. The manufacturer usually gives a guarantee to the SSD in 36 months. You do not think that the producer is stupid and really wants now to reduce the product, which in a year will have to be completely replaced at his own expense?In addition to subjective fears, there are strict technical parameters. Including the aforementioned, the time between failures.Here is the simplest example:Hard Drive Western Digital Red 3TB 7200rpm 64MB WD30EFRX 3.5 SATA IIIMTBF: 1,000,000 h.SSD Kingston SSDNow V + 200 120GB 2.5 "SATAIIIMTBF - 1 million hoursThat's all. By the way, for reference, WD Red is the only NAS storage device, that is, it is positioned as a hard drive with increased stability for round-the-clock operation under heavy loads, but at the same time its operating time for failure is the same as for a conventional SSD.Of course, strongly trust specific figures in the store window is not worth it, but if it's very interesting, you can climb directly to the sites of manufacturers and there all to see. It will be for certain😁
Hi Eugene, that honor: Setting SSD or how to save it from failure
3D_Mebe.On the first question I can not say anything, in view of the fact that I never noticed my disk like this. How do you say "productivity decline" - specify what it is you have expressed. It seems to me that this is not a system side, but a soft one.In occasion of what is better to leave, and what is better to transfer. If we proceed from the specifics of operation and maintenance of the SSD drive, then the answer is logical and in itself follows.On the one hand, if you transfer all project files, textures, and so on to SSD, then you often mean overwriting data. For example, in the process of working on a project, based on personal experience, somehow data is overwritten (changing the textures in the editor, overwriting the scene files, etc.), which in turn leads to faster deterioration of the SSD drive and a catastrophic lack of free space.On the other hand, it's logical to assume, but what if it were all on an SSD drive. What are the advantages we get as a result? In theory, this option gives more comfortable operation of the 3D Max itself, plug-ins and all software in general, one way or another related to working in max (overwriting the files updating the textures in the viewport, rendering speed, etc.), primarily because of that , Which increases the speed of access to data by an order of magnitude.Regarding the increase in the speed of rendering, I can not approve and give an experimental estimate, as I did not conduct such tests, I can only assume that the data transfer does not give such a tangible increase in time, so that it was worth keeping everything on the SSD paying huge money for the drive in The benefit of acceleration.Now I will describe how I personally do it. I use the SSD space exclusively for 100% for the software part, and all the files that I use in projects, well, the projects themselves are stored on an ordinary archive hard drive. This approach is chosen judging from the price for volume and the conditions of the long-term operation of the SSD drive.
3D_Mebel.Tested several options. I found out something, although in principle I knew it from the beginning. But I decided to describe, because I think that this can be exactly the case that you describe.The thing is this: after switching to the SSD during the setup process, I switched the mode for the SATA controller to the AHCI position. It was necessary to do this for the normal operation of the drive (for details, post # 8105). Earlier when I used an archive disk, it was constantly used by the system and it was constantly active in the process of work. With the transition to SSD, the archive disk moved to the background and became 100% perform the functions of data storage. There is a certain concept about the transition of the disk to the standby mode, the IT people and the overlords of iron call this process "parking"😁. The essence of parking is that when you access this media, there is a certain delay in time, due to the fact that the reader needs time to exit from the standby mode and search for the information you need on the media. This time and leads to some hangover of 3d Max'a.Perhaps this slows down the work, plus of course what you load (the size of the scene file, texture or geometry). All this is summarized and determines the time delay for the response of the program. I have this, but I almost do not notice it. Perhaps this gap is shorter for me, because of the characteristics of the disc (I took a high-quality and fast disk).If you use a SSD drive by the principle of only 100% program part, then you have to put up with this delay in time. Or spend big money on a larger SSD and store everything on it to eliminate this disadvantage. But from my point of view, this is irrational at all. Although the technology is new and I can be wrong. This is just my opinion and observations on the work of my carrier. This question requires the answer of an experienced person who used the disk not only for the program part. First of all, find out how fast the work will speed up and how long the disk will last if you store everything on it, whether it is worth spending money on buying an expensive disk.