Scene file size increases after each save

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28 Jan, 2013 Mariya
28 Jan, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
Hello! There are two problems: 1) Note that inadequate rapidly increasing size of the stage, it is worth even add a couple of primitive boxes. This Reactor - Collision - Do not store. Yes, in a scene of almost all simple boxes, a pair of uploaded models, and weighs 185 MB. Well too. Help, the reason may be what? 2) That you wrote a letter, and return to the project can not immediately flies. And so every time. Previously, this was not. I think these two issues are related. Help me please.


6 Feb, 2013 Anton (Staff Author)
6 Feb, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save

Hello!

Yes, there is such a problem. It happens that the scene weighs unnecessarily much, even empty. I first encountered this when I started to open models in 2013 max made in 2009.

This is a buggy algorithm that saves the data of the scene controllers. The approximate nature of the bug is that it preserves this data, even in an empty scene in which there are no objects at all. You can measure such a scene in another scene several times and the size of the acceptor scene will all the time increase by the size of the "weight" of these controllers of the donor scene.

By the way, such scenes not only take up a lot of disk space, but, almost always, 3ds Max hangs while saving and completely freezes when trying to close it. Then you can close it only through the task manager.

By standard means 3ds Max it is not treated at all, at least I have not found how to do it. However, good people, and maybe the developers themselves😁 wrote a script that simply cleans the scene of these metadata.

To clear a scene from these controllers, you need:

- download the script of cleaning the scene from the controllers "clean_motionclip.ms" and open the problem scene

- in it go to MAXScript => Run Script ...

- in the "Choose Editor File" window that appears, transfer the downloaded script

- launch it by highlighting and clicking the "Open" button

All. The script itself will clear all the extra metadata and the current scene will cease to occupy an inadequate volume on the disk, and will also not hang when you save or close.

Sometimes it happens that in the scene insert models made by someone using the simulation Reactor. Such a model (scene) can contain information about Collisions of simulation objects. In this case, getting rid of Collisions is a little easier. Enough in the Command Panel => Utilities => Reactor tab - click the "Clear" button in the Collisions rollout. Then 3ds Max itself will clear the scene of unnecessary data😉



28 Jan, 2013 Mariya
15 Feb, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
Thanks to a tremendous, very useful thing!


17 Feb, 2013 gus_ann
17 Feb, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
Anton, tell me, I also have this problem, and for the first time. The customer asks to change the scene, and it is impossible to work, hanging out at the opening, closing, saving. I tried to remove all superfluous - does not work, and when you run the script gives the recommended window: Scene weighs 3.79 GB, a lot, I know, Max, 2009. What is this - it is impossible to clear my scene? The script can not be read? For 2009 it is not working?


20 Feb, 2013 Mark
20 Feb, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
Wow! great! And on what versions of Max, this script will work?


21 Feb, 2013 Yellesar
21 Feb, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
scripts run on all versions.


17 Feb, 2013 gus_ann
21 Feb, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
Ellesar, tell me why I have a max 2009 does not want to read the script.


21 Feb, 2013 Yellesar
21 Feb, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
gus_ann, it is oshybki script, you need to code view), I do not write scripts, alas here I can not prompt.


17 Feb, 2013 gus_ann
21 Feb, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
Ellesar, Thanks for the reply.


18 Mar, 2013 Andrey
18 Mar, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
Cool script treats all file I ate 23 Giga RAM (max 2013) and sechas 5 (there is a difference), thank you very much😉


6 Feb, 2013 Anton (Staff Author)
18 Mar, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
gus_ann, hello, as noted Ellesar this script error. But, it does not parodaksalno, Horsham error, which literally means that the problems are fixed in this script there. Even if they have, then first run the script initiates the cleaning, re-issue the "mistake" because it has nothing to clean😁


17 Feb, 2013 gus_ann
19 Mar, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
Thank you, Anton, I never realized because the first time to work, and get out the error with repeated use of the script.


12 May, 2013 Leyla
12 May, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
THANK YOU FOR THIS SCRIPT OGROOOOOOOOOMNOE. I went crazy, tried all the scripts, and then it's a miracle !!! File decreased in the amount of three times! 300 mb - 99 mb !!! Thank you! You made a huge good deed, and I love you very much here :🙂🙂🙂


15 May, 2013 Dremlin
15 May, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
Precious renderstuff! You do not have prices for such good deeds! I have climbed the wall, that just did not try. From 560 to 106 mb feel better! By the way, pay attention - to a certain point, when the file has already become clearly, but inexplicably overloaded, the entire burden assumed the RAM (even when rendering), after treatment, everything fell into place - percent plows to full, operative - 60% no more. Thanks again!


28 Jan, 2013 Mariya
29 May, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
Hello, here I open a sofa 2.5 MB check, I have the size (do less, remove the unnecessary light sources, a restore, but it is already 8.5 MB weighs. After saving the model becomes "harder". From what? How to deal?


6 Jun, 2013 Tatyana
6 Jun, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
Why max freezes after rendering the image can not close the window. 3d max 2012, after rendering can not close 7 minutes kept braking, the picture blinked and did not open file format choice, for some reason, freezes and can`t close finished prorenderinuyu picture, although the programa not podvisli as it can move the scrolls though hardly 4, 2mln.poligonov, 25etazhny home PC 8GB RAM, windows 7 64bit, video card Radeon HD6800, CPU cycles Intel Core i7-2600K


4 Aug, 2013 Lenusik
4 Aug, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
Anton (RenderStuff), many thanks !!! You just saved me! Literally at the last moment could all render and send to the customer! It is not hoping for anything! scene weighed 1.4 gig !!! Began 26 mb !!!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you !!!!!!🙂🙂 👍


20 Aug, 2013 Andrey
20 Aug, 2013 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
Anton (RenderStuff), well, thank you !!! I already thought that the virus is "tricky" has picked up with the downloaded model🙂🙂🙂 makes only what RAM mnooooogo) Thanks again for the tip !!!


21 Nov, 2016 yura.
21 Nov, 2016 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
Hello, the problem is this empty stage weighs 80 mb. Scripts cleaning tried to no avail. What to do??? When merzh an empty stage veso 200 kb usual boxing scene becomes 80 MB ...


16 Jan, 2017 Slava
16 Jan, 2017 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save

Anton, you're super-man indeed! Thank you!


15 Apr, 2017 Aleks
15 Apr, 2017 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save

Thanks to Anton for helping people. But for some reason it did not help me. I work in the year of Max. Early versions of Max were well treated, and with this I suffer. While working with the scene, everything seems to work well (everything flies), and then suddenly bang - and hangs for 1-2 minutes. And so every half-hour, and even more often. Can anyone come across this. The computer is not weak, the memory is rampant, the processor and vidyuha are the norms.



15 Apr, 2017 Anton (Staff Author)
15 Apr, 2017 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save

Hi,

As you said, the bug with the increase in the scene is inherent only in versions before 3ds Max 2015 (not inclusive). In 2015 and older, it simply does not exist and cleaning scripts are not relevant. I myself work in 3ds Max 2015 and did not observe any abnormal enlargements of the scene, even in very saturated animation scenes.

As for the "frieze", they are more like pauses during auto-saving on a slow drive. Keep your scene (Ctrl + S) forcibly and try to do something in it at the same time, if its behavior is exactly the same as under the hangings mentioned by you, then most likely it's the auto-save at the time of recording that slows down the scene.



15 Apr, 2017 Aleks
15 Apr, 2017 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save

Anton, most likely you are right about auto-saving. I now hired a stage, more than 9 million polygons, weighed almost half a gig, turned off autosave - while everything flies, and forced retention 1-2 min (as I wrote earlier). I also tried experimenting, started to unload the scene by removing the models, left only something for the next scene (walls, rugs ... and any other crap), the weight decreased from 540 M to two with 60,000 polygons. In general, thanks.



15 Apr, 2017 Svetlana
15 Apr, 2017 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save

🙂 Much thanks! I'm using both of these methods. Always helps.


12 May, 2017 ttttt
12 May, 2017 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
Help, I have the same error as gus / but it does not clean anything. Write pliz in detail how to apply it. way


17 Feb, 2013 gus_ann
17 May, 2017 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
The gus cleaned everything up, I had everything and there was not enough RAM, as I think, maybe the amount of the video card, maybe the buggy models were caught, which probably happened. There is an excellent plug Pure Scene, it cleans everything. It's new. Use !!!


30 May, 2017 Natasha
30 May, 2017 # Re: Scene file size increases after each save
A huge human thanks! The file has decreased 485 MB to 85 MB!


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